Weiner should be kissin Obama's natural black ass!

[Jehovahsman]

No one here should dispute the fact that Weiner is very well informed and has well thought out opinions. No matter HOW FAR OUT IN LEFT FIELD THEY ARE.  The disdain she show's for Obama is out in left field- er- shall we say FAR RIGHT FIELD? Weiners delusion and confusion has led her to WRONG-HEADED conclusions- via exclusions. When she talks about Obama, she, in a POLLYANNA sort of way, conveniently excludes the history altering events that have occured over the past 20 years in the world. 9/11 and the war on terror have altered our history forever. The Patriot act effectively- not read by any congressman before it was passed- has compromised our privacy, liberty, and freedom. To say nothing about modern technology. Since the Reagan years, more corrupt than any in world history, HEY, THEY WAGED A SECRET WAR AND FINANCED IT WITH DRUG MONEY - WELL, WHOSE DRUGS WERE THEY SELLIN? Anyway, Daddy Bush did a great job handling the aftermath and the economy. Then Clinton came along and rode the internet bubble till it popped in 2000. Clintons years were so fraught with scandal, 9/11 saved his legacy by putting the focus on patriotism and flag waving. Then Bush got 9/11 dropped on him along with the war on terror, katrina, massive spending and bail outs of corrupt wall street bankers. When Bush left, we were in a tail spin. Obama inherited a historic tail spin and immediately spent another trillion bucks in bail out money. A MOVE TOWARD SOCIALISM IS REALLY JUST ANOTHER BAIL OUT FOR THE POOREST AMONG US. WE'RE BLEEDING "TRILLIONS" AND THE WORLD IS MAD AT US FOR TERRIBLE MIS-STEPS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS OR SO. Obama tried to bail out the poor common folks, homeowners and renters alike. Remember the rebates? Another trillion. Somehow, the war on terror has become a war of religion now.
That puts the ball in God's hands. Who will he defend, and who will emerge victorious? This is the "real" issue.
I say this because Christians want us to believe that muslims get down on their knees and their faces 5 times a day and worship the enemy of The Most High God. It is absurd to believe that. Mohammad freely and openly worshipped the God of Israel, JEHOVAH. The "issue" is Jesus. Muslims love Jesus and respect the saying of his name. "peace be upon him". Since ancient history, white gentiles have been trampling underfoot the land of the children of Abraham and killing them and persecuting them, and destroying their temples and mosques. In the name of God, Jesus, Oil, and terror. The christians are led by charlatain decievers who call themselves televangelists. Muslims are led by an absolute reliance on God's will. This brings the Holy Spirit into play. The charlatain decievers claim to have miraculous power of the Holy Spirit as "proof" God is in their corner. Prosperity and wealth are also supposed to be Godly indicators. But, without middle east oil, where are we. Without the war on terror , where are we? Christians have come to the conclusion that Islam is evil and worships the devil. No clear headed person would ever worship the enemy of the creator. All seek to worship the most high God and creator. Jesus came for the "lost sheep of Israel"- the arab sons of Abraham. The Holy Spirit is not a decieving miracle worker. As the war of religion heats up, Christians will buckle under the truth. THE ONES WHO SCREAM THE NAME OF JESUS THE LOUDEST AREN'T GUARANTEED ANYTHING BUT A SORE THROAT. Christians even have resorted to saying Jesus "is" the most high God. Jesus always made it a point to worship the Father and him only. The Most High God knows things that Jesus doesn't even know. The day and the hour. Modern christianity is satanic, you can't worship God and mammon. America worships the God of forces, which is a bad thing. The most well armed nation in world history is pushing itself to desperate means- rule by force. The enemy of God and man. The loss of free will and freedom, to enslavement to the powers that be. Watched, monitored, PM'd on, whispers, conspiracy, imprisoned, dependent on government, in atrocious debt, fixed elections, media mind control, religiously decieved, delusional, propagandized, IN A PERPETUAL STATE OF DENIAL. Obama has to fix the economy, finish the war on terror, deal with the emerging war of religion as the christians push a war on Islam, much like the crusades of old, which led to the rise of Mohammad, repair our infrastructure, and do it while taking heat for the previous regimes. We the people are constantly being lied to by religious, political and media people for the sake of public opinion. Major stories and catastrophes become old news in a short time as new major events unfold. The only important discussions happen when the media feels it should be a major discussion. Cameras are everywhere, everybody is becoming a busybody and gossiping about their neighbor. I's "us" against us, us against them [whoever that is]. Us against the world. The world doesn't think too highly of us anymore. True, we live in a great land, but who made the land, who gave and took away our bill of rights, who calls the shots? Is it Obama, or is it the CONGRESS?  america will be great until the day and the hour it collapses. Which isn't too far away. A great first step towards saving our republic is easy, CLEAN SWEEP CONGRESS. Since after WW2, congress has been the problem. If you want to hold today against Obama, then at least be JUST and hold history against congress. Christians are financing these next elections. Expect a war on Islam. A real war. Christians believe that God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are in their corner. We might be broke as a nation, but we got weapons. Christians use false evidence, fake miracles, lying words of knowledge, and money as tools to travel great distances to "proselytize and make people twice the children of the devil as they already are". JESUS' WORDS, NOT MINE. Jesus even warned his disciples that the only unforgivable sin is to ascribe deception and fake miracles to the Holy Spirit. This is what televangelists and their followers do. They tried to "steal" the faith and make it their own purely because thay saw real power and thought if they killed the early believers and stole the scriptures, they could incorporate it into thier pagan religions and get away with it. To this day they believe that they are true heirs with Christ. But consider that they killed Jesus, destroyed the temple, murdered the early believers who were Jewish and Arab, stole and edited the scriptures, raided repeatedly the Holy Land which is between the nile and euphrates, and are there even now, incorporated pagan "heathen" traditions into christianity, and sexually molest young boys, allow the disregard for the law of moses and God in our culture, be the true heirs with Christ? Muslims still follow the law of Moses and will punish violations of Gods law. Christians "say" we are free from the law. But they are the harsh judges in our world. If we ever return to christian puritanism, look out. Islam would be a picnic. They see nothing wrong with dropping a bomb on a muslim home or mosque, but if you don't believe as they believe, you are a devil. Christianity itself is even the most divided of religions because everybody like to play judge and jury. they beat each other over the head with their man made bibles day and night. Bad timing for the collapse of our economy would be a collapse that happens as a religious fued or war is breaking out. I truly expect both to happen rather quickly in America. Soon. Blame Obama, hes a muslim, er, christian, er black, er half white, er democratic, er socialist, american, er a non-citizen born in africa, er the scapegoat, er ................hey, if somebody else had an answer, we'd be hearing from them.  One answer would be to move the christians out of the Holy Land, "Jesus" said "the Holy City would be "trampled underfoot" by the white gentiles until the time of the gentiles is fulfilled". They use Jesus to cause division between jews and arab muslims. Enough already. But what about the oil, er terror? WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO AMERICA?! Well, blame Obama for anything that happens. AND HIDE BEHIND JESUS- THATS WHERE JESUS TOLD THE DEVIL TO GO. HE LIKES IT THERE. FOR NOW.BUT HE'S ALL TANGLED UP IN HIS STRINGS.

[Prodigal Son]

Wow. I'd better check the server space. Meanwhile, somebody check the dictionary. I think all the words are gone.

[The Rock]

The Rock says that someone should tell JMan that his tinfoil hat isn't getting the job done anymore.

http://www.damninteresting.com/tin-foil-hats-proven-ineffective

[Jehovahsman]

Wow. I'd better check the server space. Meanwhile, somebody check the dictionary. I think all the words are gone.

Well, it's like this. You can't press the delete or undo button in life. It is what it is. I always keep courage in mind because I admire it so, but display it so un-often in my life. [get a dictionary]. Muslims display such devotion to God by getting on their knees and faces 5 times a day to God. Jesus said " the people worship me in vain........worship the Father and him only. they show such courage because we invade them wearing bullet proof vests, flack jackets, night vision gear, support, hi-tech weaponry, tanks and assault vehicles and so on;; and the muslim comes to fightwith his bear hands- OR IMPROVISED EXPLOSIVE DEVICES. IN CAPS, WHERE DID THEY LEARN TO MAKE IED'S?  ANSWER: CIA. THATS RIGHT. DURING THE RUSSIAN AFGHAN WAR THE CIA TAUGHT THE MUJAHADEEN HOW TO MAKE WEAPONS OF WAR. Other than that, they don't hardly have guns and bullets. Before they go in the mosque to pray, they wash their feet as a respect for the house of prayer. For the most part, they are a very moral people. To fight, they have to strap a IED to themselves and sacrifice themselves to inflict enemy casualities. Jesus told his disciples not to go to the gentiles. Not to go door to door. Christians have caused un- repairable[dictionary time] damage to christian/muslim relations. Arab and muslims can't be expected to go against the words of God and Jesus just because christians do. The scriptures say that the woman should be quiet in church. Muslims go that way, but christians are led by women.

[Jehovahsman]

The Rock says that someone should tell JMan that his tinfoil hat isn't getting the job done anymore.

http://www.damninteresting.com/tin-foil-hats-proven-ineffective

Perhaps you are right. After all, life is merely a series of one-liners. When you elicit behind the scenes "private messages" for merely stating the truth, one should expect snipers. just think if we all had to include our real names and addresses in this forum. I suspect there would be crime and victimization perpertrated by cliques that PM and conspire and gossip frequently. TIN HAT INDEED!
I do talk about real life. I like to form my own opinions and beliefs concieved in information gathering. THE REALITY OF THE CONSEQUENCES OF DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN POLICY HAS NOT IMPACTED NOR REVEALED ITSELF TO THE AMERICAN MASSES YET. WHEN WE SEE AND FEEL TANGIBLE CONSEQUENCES, IT WILL BE TOO LATE TO CHANGE. THE DAMAGE HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE AND IS NOT UNDO-ABLE. WE WILL SEE CONSEQUENCES FOR OUR ARROGANCE SOON.

[Prodigal Son]

Nope, I guess I was wrong. Apparently there were some words left.

[Jehovahsman]

Nope, I guess I was wrong. Apparently there were some words left.

It's called expressing an opinion, soliciting discussion, freedom of speech............ you know.  See, what happens when some religious freak vandalizes that ground zero mosque? America is founded on religious freedom. You can't allow the suppression of Islam without it affecting Christianity or a little old rag called the constitution. You start messin with mosques, expect to have your churchs messed with. WANT WAR?  I hate to say "I told you so", but.................

[Jehovahsman]

I'm waitin on Weiner. I suspect a well thought out and compelling response, but chock full of holes and inuendo. She'll try to put words in my mouth. Take me out of context. I suspect we're all waitin on Weiner. She's busy in wikipedia and the dictionary. I expect total silence from her until tomorrow. I hit her with a lot of truth, now she knows how obama must feel. Weiner is going to have to conspire with the PM crowd and plan an attack. See, this is why I have a policy against truth, it gets you in too much trouble. Americans seem to hate truth for some reason. I used the headlines without addressing them directly. But you know truth when you see it. OUT OF WORDS INDEED! AT THE VERY WORST, YOU CAN ACCUSE ME OF PROPAGANDA, BUT HEY, SINCE WHEN IS THAT A BAD THING. EVERYBODY WITH AN AGENDA PRACTICES THE ART OF PROPAGANDA. CAN I?

[Prodigal Son]

It's called expressing an opinion, soliciting discussion...

Pound the keys all you want for now. I doubt anyone is paying much attention as long as you remain reasonably sociable, but be prepared for the backlash that excessive verbiage and opinionated arrogance inspire or, even, demand. You may be better served with something like this, where you can spout all you want while keeping better track of whether anyone cares or not. AND LET US BE PERFECTLY CLEAR ON THIS POINT: freedom of speech, within certain well-defined limitations, is for street corners, not for private web spaces. It is foolish to assume rights that don't exist. Finally, while I can't speak for others here, I know many posters by name and location and, as always, anyone who wants to, can find me any time they want. All they have to do is ask. Also, I just checked the stats. There are 847 PMs by over a hundred different posters over a 13 month period. That's hardly a basis for a conspiracy, especially considering the number of times Irving Two-smokes used the system to invite pbal out for a beer. Paranoia do annoy ya, don't it?

[yoyo]

Well, it's like this. You can't press the delete or undo button in life. ....

Fortunately on the Buzz you can push the delete button, it is in the upper right corner of each of your posts.

[Jehovahsman]

WDVE mentioned PM's about me. I don't feel like I tried to invoke a right to freedom of speech. I merely mentioned it in a reply.
You'll notice a lot of "verbiage" , so try not to focus on one phrase or word so much.  People will complain about content, all caps, positions one takes, and anything else to latch onto and belly-ache. I've been all over the country lately, and America isn't what you think it is anymore. People are angry and irrational, they sense trouble in the air. There isn't much optimism out there. Hatin on Obama and muslims is stupid. They didn't have anything to do with creating our history, which has a direct influence on our present.
Americans need to place their anger rightly and for the right reasons. We have to realize the impact of a religious war at home. Everybody wants change and good government, but they keep voting in the same problems. Christians are secretly funding a theocracy. They pander to fox news and cause problems in the middle east. Everybody from the pastor on the corner, to politicians get their religious beliefs from charlatains on TV.  Televangelists have too much clout with the general population and the pol's because they use deception to proselytize. Muslims already see the war on terror as a war on Islam, and some televangelists and their followers want to fan the flames. A war on Islam in America could happen with the vandalism of a mosque as a trigger. A war on Islam will be seen as a war on race in America. Muslims respect a christian house of prayer, christians should respect any house of prayer - that isn't a den of thieves. Jesus would turn over the christian money changers tables right about now. Using your tax free status and phony self righteous doctrine to fund select candidates is special interest and ilegal lobbying.

[molmarsa]

What did I miss? I don't see where DVE said anything much less anything about PM's about you. Maybe I'm not reading exactly what is before my eyes?

[redcap]

And you say wiener if in left (ooops right) field.

I have heard Looney Tunes has a opening.

[Jehovahsman]

Fortunately on the Buzz you can push the delete button, it is in the upper right corner of each of your posts.

Do tell.... well, i won't be using that button. My reason for being here is to provide some food for thought, drop some truth and history, connect dots, discuss issues, and try to make some sense of it all.
I'm not here to drop a witty one liner or be part of a clique. This land was great even before we got here, over-ran it, and committed genocide against native americans, and in a doctrine called manifest destiny, took mexican land by force and chased them from their homes. America doesn't owe it's greatness to it's people; it has always been the worlds greatest land, even when there was only indians and mexicans here. The people didn't make America great, the land made America great. We weren't invited here, we took it by force, and the mexicans and indians hold us in contempt too. Americans need to remember in their arrogance that this is land taken by force. We remember 6 million jews from the holocaust, but forget 6 million african dead slaves, millions of dead indians and mexicans. The same invaders of america-us- are the same people who decided to reconstitute israel and divide up the land. You can't invade a land, kill the people, and expect them to forget- not even in a few generations. Because your spoils are passed from generation to generation, JUST AS THE BITTERNESS OF BEING SPOILED IS PASSED FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.

[Jehovahsman]

What did I miss? I don't see where DVE said anything much less anything about PM's about you. Maybe I'm not reading exactly what is before my eyes?

I'm fairly certain that at some point it was WDVE that said pm's were floating around about me. Never the less, I'm not writing about me, I'm writing about history and current events. Please don't insult my intelligence and try to make it about me.
challenge the content and support my [gulp] RIGHT to express my opinion. I know how the "prodigal son", good christian that he is, hates it when someone thinks they have a right to speak truth to the masses. Hey, maybe thats why the media lies to us- maybe we can't handle the truth.